tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22692957336504512022024-03-14T21:23:13.742+11:00Morten Ditlev MADSENMorten Ditlev MADSEN arrived in New South Wales in March 1877 after leaving Germany. He had left his village of Tiset where he was born in 1856. This village which was then part of Jutland in Denmark became part of Germany in 1864.Jeffrey Madsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18072313098645932511noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2269295733650451202.post-78672194057792278912021-09-28T13:09:00.001+10:002021-09-28T13:52:26.244+10:00What We Knew!<p> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;">We started with
his death certificate and the birth certificates of his 5 children. The death
certificate revealed that he died at Marrickville in 1933 and that he was 76
years old. It said that he was born in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Denmark</st1:country-region>
and had been in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
about 64 years. This would have made his arrival in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region> about 1869 at the age of
twelve (12).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">His children’s
birth certificates gave differing indications of his birthplace. Two said that
he was born in </span><st1:place style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Denmark</st1:country-region></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">.
Another two birth certificates show that he was born in </span><st1:place style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Jutland</st1:city>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Denmark</st1:country-region></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">.
The birth certificate of his fifth child, Rita May Madsen (b.1898) states that
he was born in </span><st1:place style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Tiset</st1:city>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Denmark</st1:country-region></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> and was aged 42. This now
gives an approximate year of birth as 1857.</span></p>Jeffrey Madsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18072313098645932511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2269295733650451202.post-31359775196866722082021-09-27T13:03:00.003+10:002021-09-28T14:46:00.422+10:00What is the Truth!<p> </p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face=""Arial",sans-serif">Family stories
can be valuable sources of information to the genealogist about family members
long gone. However, we have to be careful of the truth of these stories!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Arial, sans-serif">My great
grandfather was Martin Ditlev MADSEN. The family stories said that he was an
orphan, that he jumped ship and that he changed his name. How do we go about
proving or disproving these stories and what did we know when we started to learn about him.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Arial, sans-serif"><b>We knew</b> that he had been born in Denmark and arrived in Australia by ship.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8Du452bRawOCaEGwTGwmYYNSaEPEwAKd3nlixHG62GTF0FoCUuVTDJZkCE2xhkZjlLvE_TDd_yJgCDagDyoIW6LOeCixeMgdrzkIomm5Oqf6zPvPBLvQdwH0K9QK3mL71bVZfFIb2z5U/s1315/TisetLocationSmall.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="931" data-original-width="1315" height="227" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg8Du452bRawOCaEGwTGwmYYNSaEPEwAKd3nlixHG62GTF0FoCUuVTDJZkCE2xhkZjlLvE_TDd_yJgCDagDyoIW6LOeCixeMgdrzkIomm5Oqf6zPvPBLvQdwH0K9QK3mL71bVZfFIb2z5U/s320/TisetLocationSmall.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">Th<span style="text-align: left;">e other knowns included:</span></div><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Arial, sans-serif"><b>Marriage </b>to Mary Ann WARDLE at her father's house in Wallsend on 15 March 1881. We had a copy of the marriage certificate but this gave little information about him.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxCaEiC9NYkSJj1-q9x_n_Q0jnRaM02aYXyZYMd8UOJvHUc8plHknGukJA26BLU3RlrToFBrAJ6JjGfAOflkoGbfRP0PlkBNv1qF-NUlPqJOhUxykvbrCnIeRiToRQ9xcc3sMK46i0GMI/s2048/MADSEN+Martin+Ditlev+18810315+MarriageCert.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2048" data-original-width="1440" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxCaEiC9NYkSJj1-q9x_n_Q0jnRaM02aYXyZYMd8UOJvHUc8plHknGukJA26BLU3RlrToFBrAJ6JjGfAOflkoGbfRP0PlkBNv1qF-NUlPqJOhUxykvbrCnIeRiToRQ9xcc3sMK46i0GMI/s320/MADSEN+Martin+Ditlev+18810315+MarriageCert.jpg" width="225" /></a></div><br /><span face="Arial, sans-serif"><br /></span><p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The couple had five children and their Birth Certificates gave a little more information. Each certificate showed different information relating to his Country of Birth and each one displayed his age.</p>William (b. 1882) - Denmark, age 26<div>Joseph (b. 1884) - Denmark, age 27</div><div>Martha (b. 1887) - Jutland, Denmark, age 31</div><div>James (b. 1890) - Jutland, Denmark, age 34</div><div>Rita(b. 1898) - Tiset, Denmark, age 42<br /><span face="Arial, sans-serif"><br />This allowed to us calculate his birth year as 1856. This was the only information that we had of Martin before his arrival in Australia!<br /></span><p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span face=""Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div>Jeffrey Madsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18072313098645932511noreply@blogger.com